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cactuschowdah
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7 years ago

How can one of the greatest food cities on Earth not have a PFN thread? So I'm going to be there for a few days this summer, and am trying to plan out the attack. Past favorites include-

-Shake Shack- I don't care how long the wait is, those burgers and shakes are amazing
-John's Pizza- The best pizza I've had in NYC, but I always feel guilty not trying to find other places- I always go here. Any other pizza suggestions?
-Spotted Pig/Breslin- Hipster-central, but great food- any other similar-type spots?
-Maialino- some of the best Italian food I've had - another Danny Meyer place.
-Carmine's- sitting at the bar for their meatball sub is one of life's finer pleasures.

Anyone have any favorites they want to throw out there?
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7 years ago

I'm not generally a dessert person, but I've been proselytizing for Chikalicious Dessert Bar ever since my trip there during a post-Thanksgiving food binge. It completely redefined how I thought about dessert. To give you an idea of the impact, consider this: six months later, I remember every detail of our brief stop at Chikalicious far more vividly than our lunch at Jean-Georges the same day.

My advice is as follows:
1. Arrive early (before 8 PM); otherwise, the wait can be over an hour.
2. Get a seat at the counter, so you can watch Chika work.
3. Order the Fromage Blanc Island Cheesecake. It's a life-changing food experience.
4. Mileage may vary, but I preferred my glass of iced tea to the wine pairing. The slight bitterness of the unsweetened iced tea went better with the desserts than the sweet wines.
5. After over-indulging in sweets, walk a few blocks over to Yakitori Taisho (5 St. Marks Place) to get your fill of salty and smoky chicken parts to chase the sweetness.

ETA: Actually, come to think of it,
6. You should probably end your evening at Yakitori Taisho at some point anyway. They're open until 4AM on weekends, 2AM on weeknights.
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Serious Eats has a great piece on "Where to Eat (and Avoid) in Little Italy and Chinatown" along with a cute little map...

He does summarize it down to about a dozen or so places of "dishes and restaurants he'd recommend first to a friend" at the end of the article. Looks like a nice list...
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I'm so far removed from my last visit to NYC that I'm hesitant to recommend anything. But I do feel compelled to mention that Russ & Daughters was a massive eye-opener for me when it comes to smoked and cured fish.
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No seats, not a restaurant -- it's an old-school shop that's packed to the gills (see what I did there?) with an absurd variety of fish. But even if you do nothing more than gawk at the selection and then grab a couple of bagels, some cream cheese and some lox and sit on a bench outside, it's well worth a stop.

(Also, Katz's is a stone's throw down the street, and you could do worse for a one-two punch.)

Russ & Daughters
www.russanddaughters.com
179 E. Houston Street
New York, NY 10002
212-475.4880
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cactuschowdah
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7 years ago

That's funny- I just watched an old "No Reservations" last night that was highlighting "old school Manhattan" and both Russ & Daughters and Katz' was featured.
DesertDoc
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7 years ago

What is your budget/plan?

NYC is great because you can hit the hallal carts for very little $$$ or you can go crazy at EMP or Per Se.

The two places I'm looking forward to on the higher end for my next visit are Atera and Brushstroke.

If you can give some idea of areas of the city, price range, or cuisine, I think we can give you some better guidance.
cactuschowdah
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7 years ago

Thanks DD- not looking to go insane, but can afford a splurge or two, somewhere in the 100-200 range for 2 people with wine/booze. We're staying down at Battery Park, but am willing to go anywhere in Manhattan if it's good. Thanks for your help!
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cactuschowdah wrote:Thanks DD- not looking to go insane, but can afford a splurge or two, somewhere in the 100-200 range for 2 people with wine/booze. We're staying down at Battery Park, but am willing to go anywhere in Manhattan if it's good. Thanks for your help!
Babbo's tasting menu is one of the greatest values in NYC (7-course tasting for $90), but you need to book your reservation exactly one month in advance to get a table. If you're willing to splurge a bit, Ai Fiori is just as good and far easier to book a table, but also pricier ($92 for a four-course tasting, $130 for 7-courses).
cactuschowdah
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Any gastropub-type places (God, I hate that term, but still) near Union Square? I'm supposed to be meeting some family for dinner in that general area and that's what they're looking for...
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7 years ago

Re: gastropub near Union Sqaure, eating at the bar at Gramercy Tavern is great (no reservations at the bar though...)

For some exhaustive research. here is a ridiculously good nyc breakdown from chowhound care of kathryn...

kathryn Mar 29, 2013 10:48 AM
What research have you done on your own already?

What's your max budget, per person, before tax, tip, wine/drinks?

It's much easier to give recommendations if you can name a per person figure for food ONLY since drinking habits vary so widely.

Don't forget to account for 20% tip and nearly 9% sales tax.

See also:

Recommendations for 1st time visitor:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/890481

Top High-End Spots for Visitor from Toronto
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/894580

Cheap eats for 1st time visitor from NZ:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/892330

I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour but sub in Pickle Guys for Guss' Pickles and note that Economy Candy's address is incorrect:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493333

Some common tourist inquiries:

Near MoMA:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/771459
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/767638

Near the Metropolitan Museum of Art (and Whitney and Guggenheim, ish):
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/07/ ... -york.html
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793684
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/795435
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793684

Near the American Museum of Natural History:
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/05/ ... -york.html
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793258
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/748686

Near Macy's/Herald Square:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/725320
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/757797#6192796
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/06/ ... ation.html

Soho:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/701593
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/757797#6192796

5th Avenue shopping:
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/11/ ... attan.html

Pre-theatre:
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/06/ ... attan.html
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/05/ ... trict.html
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/671275
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/755684
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/715535
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/788254

Notable food trucks/carts:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/701278

Prix fixe lunch deals:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/874731#7664889

Best breakfast/brunch in NYC:
It is (IMO) at the Breslin, Locanda Verde, Shopsin's, Clinton St Baking Co., or Minetta Tavern.
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/809368#684625

Best bagels in NYC:
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2009/10/ ... gel-1.html
Summary: the freshest bagels are the best; bagels don't age well at all. Focus on the smoked salmon instead. Preferably at Russ & Daughters! Featured in shows such as No Reservations and Louie!

I'm fond of red onion, capers, regular cream cheese, and tomato on mine. Try a few smoked salmons before you settle on one, they're surprisingly different (and lox is not the same as smoked salmon, because lox is salmon cured in salt brine, and most people actually prefer the more modern, Nova-style smoked salmon). You can get a mini-sized bagel sandwich at Russ & Daughters, too, if you wish. Takeout only.

My favorite unique places in NY serve Xian (Chinese) food, Issan (Thai) food, organic/local/sustainable Japanese BBQ, authentic Basque (Spanish) tapas, creative diner food, pretzels, hot dogs, halal food, steak, upscale rustic Italian, Italian subs, creative Italian-American, high end non-sushi Japanese (like kaiseki), creative desserts, molecular gastronomy, mixology/creative cocktails, and creative brunches (sometimes every day of the week).

My favorite spots:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838348 -- scroll down to my post
cactuschowdah
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7 years ago

Wow! This is quite a treasure trove of resources- thanks! Is the scene trying to get a seat at 5 at the Gramercy Tavern a complete nightmare? There's 4 of us and I'm not sure what the bar/hightop/table situation is.

Also, for Italian, what is the consensus- Babbo or Scarpetta?
DesertDoc
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7 years ago

If you get there early, you should have no trouble eating at the tavern with a group of 4. I would check out the menu online first and make sure it works for your group

Re: scarpetta vs babbo, I would definitely recommend babbo. You can always check out Scarpetta in Vegas.

Another options for Italian, would try to get in to torrisi Italian specialties. Now that the models are all going to their new place, carbone, you can more easily check out the original. Or, next door at Parm for more casual food.
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7 years ago

4 faves from when I lived in NYC from 2007 to 2009 (according to online reviews, looks like they're still good). Note that we were poor newleyweds, so none of these break the bank.

Joe's Shanghai in Chinatown (9 Pell st) - best Chinese in the city that I found on account of outrageous soup dumplings and the scallion pancakes are brilliant. Also go for the string bean Szechuan Style. Family style dining and community tables. The wait isn't as bad as the line seems it will be.

Kashkaval at 56th and 9th - specialty deli in front, dimly lit intimate wine and tapas bar in the back. Everything, yes, everything is good here. Baba ganoush and a cheese and meat board were always my requirement. Also still reminisce on the elephant beans, chilled tapas.

Alice's Tea Cup on the Upper West Side - whimsical establishment, and though certainly "girly" was one of my hubby's favorites for brunch/lunch because of their chicken potato hash. It's the reason I now always have lapsang souchong tea on hand so I can recreate this awesome hash.

Calle Ocho on the Upper West Side - best brunch in the city. Endless sangria bar with 8 different selections. Need I say more?

I also frequently used menupages.com to find places and, not trying to make a shameless plug, but cityeats.com/new-york has some good selections to peruse. My friends there are big fans of Jezebel, though I have never been.

Oh, I almost forgot! Zum Schneider, "to the tailor" is outstanding for German. Located in Alphabet City. Their crispy pork shank is a thing of meaty beauty and for an appetizer, get the Schupfnudeln im Sauerkraut which is a house favorite: pan fried dumplings tossed in sauerkraut. The also have Spaten Optimator on tap. A few of those and a pork shank and you'll be shouting Prost!
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Welcome, Joanie! Glad you made it :-)
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7 years ago

If you're willing to trek up to Washington Heights, there's a chicharron place that seems like it would be a wallet-friendly favorite here. All-Dominican clientele, no English speakers, a line out the door, and (except for sides) only one thing on the menu: crispy chunks of pork deep-fried in its own fat.

I can't remember the name of it, but after googling, I'm about 90% sure it's Elsa La Reina (4840 Broadway).
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4 years ago

NYC is a tricky beast because there is SO MUCH to choose from. I can see why this thread hasn't been active whatsoever, but I just found out my work trip next week has been extended so I have some free evenings and the +1 is able to join me for his first trip ever!! So at this point with such late notice we're kind of scrambling and looking for any help.

- Would love some great ethnic options, sichuan and indian specifically
- We've been saving up money to do some stuff around the house and have decided instead to blow it on a 3* Michelin type dinner ;). On the waitlist for Eleven Madison Park but thinking maybe we should just reserve Jean Georges to be safe? We are not interested in Per Se or in Masa's $600/person menu.
- I've been reviewing NY Times, Eater heat map, etc. but would love in general any great recs. Willing to travel throughout Manhattan and probably will stick to there for his first trip.
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4 years ago

I know Momofuku would be high on my list...but otherwise I would also be overwhelmed. I know Chinatown has some fantastic options, but I couldn't tell you what! So jealous...have fun!
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4 years ago

You are so right, it's almost impossible to decide in NYC! We went a few years back for Mr. Vacation's birthday and did fabulous lunches at EMP and Le Bernardin. While both were excellent, EMP was the slightly better experience ... much more fun with a little whimsy thrown in many courses. That's also where we discovered that beautiful pink wine, Bugey Cerdon. I hope you get the call back from them!

If you were going to venture into Brooklyn, I would say put Roberta's on your list. Top on my pizza list.
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4 years ago

Thanks for the feedback! Obsessively been checking Momofuku Ko as well and just found a reservation opened up! Now if something at EMP opens up the real debate will begin on which to choose :). No matter what will report back of course.
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4 years ago

I haven’t been to NYC in years, but I bookmark places that jump out at me. Here's a few in Manhattan . . .

Harry & Ida’s Meat and Supply Co – (Pastrami and Eel Sandwich)
Bar Goto – (Seafood Okinamiyaki)
Kang Ho Dong Baekjeong – (Korean BBQ)
Red Rooster – (Marcus Samuelsson’s place)
Aquavit – (Scandinavian, Marcus was previously the chef here)
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